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Soulmaster's Plan: Shrine of Classic Gaming

Posted by SoulMaster71 - October 12th, 2009


As a child, I would go to bed at night and dream of one thing: video games. From at least 1994 my mind revolved around them, whether the arcade hits of the day (early Tekken, some relative of Soul Caliber, and most of all Mortal Kombat were mainstays of my arcade life by 1997) or the games on my cousin's Sega Genesis (mostly Sonic the Hedgehog 2 and, again, Mortal Kombat). In later years, once I felt the decline of games as I knew them, the thought came to me to own the classics of my youth, and of the days before I began playing. But though I scoured yard sales and the local auction for used systems, the games and systems I sought proved too elusive without the Internet, and by the summer of 2005 professional wrestling had displaced gaming for what seemed forever.

But reality is not always what seems real at the time, and eventually through the very gaming that seemed displaced (and through Newgrounds) my obsession with pro wrestling ended. Though my former thoughts remained dormant until my circumstances could support some of them, eventually that support became a possibility, and all it took to set them back in the track of my mind was one glimpse, one seed from which the tree of my thought could grow.

Then I saw the Angry Video Game Nerd. The room in which Mr. Rolfe films his AVGN videos was and is a prototype of my vision, filled with classic consoles and old games. But my vision is greater, filled with more consoles and more games than the Nerd will ever review, and perhaps with old arcade machines as well. Still, the systems and games on his set were enough to re-awaken my dreams of owning all, of building a great shrine to video gaming as it once was, as it should still be.

Consider this first a notice of intent: I intend to buy as many classic game systems, and as many games for those systems, as I can afford. As time passes and as I obtain greater and greater amounts of money, I will use more and more of it to buy video games. Anyone who knows how I become when focused on the game will understand how serious I am about this plan.

Second, I will provide here the most basic outline of my idea as it stands now, a system of organization that recognizes "good" games from "bad" ones.

I. Region of the Greats
1. Hall of Heaven: Where good games go when they die. On an upper floor, this room contains the good games of the past that just didn't make it to beatification. Think Zelda II for the NES, or the American Super Mario Bros. 2 (Doki Doki Panic if you live in Japan).
2. Palace of the Beatified: The greatest games of yesteryear. Games have to live up to the Two Tests before entry, the Test of Great Fun and the Test of Great Influence.
3. Canonized Saints of Gaming: The first recognizable games of the great series. If half or more of the series is in the Palace of the Beatified, the first game is probably in here.

II. Region of the Average
1. Hall of Purgatory: These games were, meh, OK in their time, and they haven't aged well at all. Probably the largest hall in the Shrine, filled with mostly-forgotten games as well as a few knockoffs and spinoffs like Ms. Pac Man.
2. Hall of Limbo: These systems just didn't get enough support or attention for the games to thrive. Under the forever-watchful statue of Duke Nukem, here as well lie the names of games from popular series that just never made it to the gamers, whether they were mere rumors or announced-and-canceled games.
3. Adam and Eve of Games: All men spring from the First Couple, and so all games spring from a single game and a screen somewhere in the early 1970s. One game, the first to garner mass popularity among the people in their own homes. One screen, the partner of the game. In this room waits Pong for the end of its descendants' story.

III. Region of the Terrible
1. Hall of Hell: Shitty games and consoles galore. Anyone can enter, but who the fuck would? These games are an example of what not to do when licensing, developing, publishing, or marketing.
2. Eternal Prison of Worst Offenders: These games are well-known, even legendary, for sucking. Never, it is to be hoped, shall the people of Earth ever again have to suffer from their like.
3. Mouth of Satan: One system, a Colecovision with Atari 2600 emulation attachment. Two games, both Atari 2600 games of 1982 make, who together nearly destroyed an industry on the American continent and most of whose kind are said to have been buried in New Mexico. You and I both know which games these are.

Fellow users are welcome and requested to suggest changes to the system, or to voice their opinions on what constitutes a "classic" console or game.


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Ok, but you'll wake up tomorrow and ask yourself what were you under the influence of, and why your left eye is itchy.

So is that what happened this morning?

Well shit, I have to say that that is a very, very bad idea unless you happen to be rich with nothing better to spend money on. If I had the money to do this I would bring it over to Child'sPlay Charity. A charity that brings books, toys, and video games to kids in the hospital. How awesome would it be to take away some pain with some good old WiiSports (which comes with the Wii)? Or hell, there are plenty of cool charities to spread the love.

I don't know. I'm a child who followed the new games once he got tired of his older classics (which I still play, I just no longer drool over them). I have no interest in obtaining old consoles with games nobody ever heard of. I'm fine with the Virtual Console and PS1 titles available on PSN. Oh, and the Sega Genesis Collection for PS3 which includes 40 classic Genesis games on one disc for 30$. Kickass.

I just think you should rethink what you want to do with your money in your future. Pipe dreams never turn out the way you wanted them. Just enjoy AVGN as he lasts, and buy yourself a newer console.

If you truly have a passion for video games. Perhaps to bring the greatness of the older generations to newer games, then work on a future of helping make video games. Be a programmer, designer, director, animator, or tester. I myself hope my flashwork gets me a step closer to an animator for say, the next Mario or Zelda game. I want to help Nintendo take their games seriously. Cinematics is not their strong point. I wouldn't mind also working on the next Metal Gear or Resident Evil game (two series' that I'm a BIG fan of), but Nintendo needs help.

Eventually, I could work my way up through the ranks to Lead Animator. I tell a group of "Yes Men" what I want everything to be like. Kickass...

What? Oh-err, yeah you should definitely think twice about this dream of yours.

Or at least...

That's what I think...

By now you, if anyone, should know better than to try to talk me out of something like this. Have you forgotten 2007? I'm not interested in so much as touching a PS3 or a Wii, not until they're about a third of their current price. Actually, in the Wii case, I'll probably never play again after playing Mario Baseball or whatever that was with one of my cousins. When I was a child, I didn't play no damn gimmick motion-sensitive system with shitty games!

I already have a 360, and you know what? I still play my old games a lot more and haven't touched the 360 since January, because the 360 fucking sucks. The games are all graphics and little or no storyline or gameplay. Assassin's Creed, for example, lacks replay value, but guess what games still have replay value? If you answered "the oldies", you're correct! But the gaming public has just changed too damn much to enjoy my kinds of games, so no company would make them now. That's why I have to take refuge in the old games and systems: other than me, gamers now just want guns and explosions, and possibly multiplayer competition. It's too bad that the Wii, with a few games like Super Smash Bros. Brawl and (of course) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess that offer something a lot better than just "graphics and guns and grenades AND 10-PLAYER ONLINE ACTION!!!", is cursed with that motion-sensing gimmick and armies of shitty games like Wii Sports and such made just for the gimmick.

AVGN was just a trigger. It's been in my mind, in some form or another, since my cousin, the one who got me started on gaming, sold his Genesis in 2001 or so. It was dormant, sleeping, buried, but eventually it came back, as it inevitably would. I certainly like the videos, they're hilarious (am I still so immature that, at age 20, I still laugh at shit jokes and vulgar language?!), but it would only have been delayed without AVGN.

I've already ordered a Genesis from eBay, including some of the earliest games I played (by which I mean Sonic 2 and the first two Mortal Kombat games). Might as well start where I did the first time, eh? I might not finish the plan before leaving the physical world behind me, but hey, every man has his recreation, and mine is playing good games which understand that there's more to games than appealing to hardcore FPS players who cut their teeth at Doom LAN parties or non-gamers who haven't touched a game since the first Pac-Man at the latest. Too bad most of them are from when games couldn't produce realistic graphics.

Soulmaster, where the hell were you these past 1 and a half years? You knew about the Video Game Forums. In fact, you were the one to tell me the night it came out. Why didn't you join the fun? I must have seen a post from you in there only two or three times.

So you'll be waiting until the Wii costs around 65-70$ and the PS3 is 100$? They've had price drops, you know. But if you have a 360, your best choice is the Wii, because the PS3 has the same games, just with added Metal Gear and Ratchet&Clank. Just saying.

I don't think I need to tell you that the consoles of old are available for hundreds of dollars because of how rare they are. It's a huge waste of money. It's great you love video games, but you need to turn that love into something else. You don't have to find solace in the past. There are good games out there. Games for every gamer. With Virtual Console, PSN, and XBLA, you could get yourself past games for FAIR prices.

You don't have to do this! I have been following gaming my whole life, I've had my doubts, I've been dissapointed before by games that were supposed to be good, but I've kept my hopes for the industry. I knew the companies who were in this to make games (Nintendo, Capcom, Kojima) still work hard on each masterpiece, even if they take a while to get out.

And motion sensing? You know that it's not that bad. In most games you just have to flick your wrist. Sure, you may be pissed that the 2010 Wii Zelda game might have the Wii Motion Plus which requires actual movements, but Nintendo knows that some fans won't want that. I bet they'll have it so you could play with the buttons, or a Gamecube Controller.

The rush of FPS games is due to the newer companies making a quick buck on the newest fashion. Some I actually enjoyed very much, but others just had a generic story and you played as a character who never said a word. But those aren't the only games out there. I rely on Nintendo to take me away from that. But then I realize they don't take games seriously yet either. So I go to Metal Gear Solid or Resident Evil. Great series'. Metal Gear with it's amazing storyline, and Resident Evil with it's lovable characters, enemies, and situations.

I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how I can change your mind. So if you really want this, then go ahead. Don't start whining when one of the many possible problems occurs with your new games and systems.

The past year and a half was, to say the least, an adventure. A heroic quest for my old knowledge and power! But now it's back, and I'm back, and the moment I was finally ready for it, God directed me back to my old thoughts. At least I think it was God, it might have just been my own instinct.

$30 for a Genesis, plus $12 shipping and an extra $6 for a game that I wanted that wasn't included? Gee, that's only $48, nowhere near "hundreds". Arcade games, on the other hand... But that's for when I have a real job and everything, and when I have a place to put them. And there's probably a few rare consoles that would be hard to find working, but hey, nobody said this would be easy.

Let me tell you, remakes and emulation and whatever (Virtual Console, etc.) just don't do the old games justice. Sure, I can say I've played Super Mario World, but only on a GBA remake. Sonic Mega Collection was fun, but it just didn't feel like playing Sonic 2 on the Genesis. I've played Mario Bros. in the arcade, much different from the version included in the Super Mario Advance games. Yeah, Virtual Console-type stuff is out of the question. Plus, there's something to be said for owning the actual cartridge instead of just having the data stored on the Wii.

I don't exactly know how "seriously" games should be taken. Certainly they should be respected enough that game companies take some care to put out good games instead of just playing to a system's gimmick (Nintendo? Guilty as charged!), but they aren't absolute serious business either, they're not war or politics or economics, and the current problems in video games are caused mostly by people taking games too seriously who wouldn't even have been gamers before the Playstation.

Will the next Zelda come out with a Gamecube controller option? If that happens, there just might be reason to buy a Wii. Maybe. But if I have to swing a piece of plastic around like a sword to control a game, uh, no. Swords are awesome, Wii controllers aren't, and don't even get me started about how 90% of the third-party games on Wii, and even the Nintendo games that don't feature the stars, are shovelware.

It's not that I don't have hope, but I'm disappointed at the current industry and while I think that it will be better someday, as of right now I feel that I have to take refuge in the old games until that day comes. Like in Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, when the Luminoth went into stasis until Samus could destroy Dark Aether, I am going into "stasis" until the game industry refreshes itself.

You won't hear me whining when a system or a game breaks. I know the dangers, I know what could happen. But in 13 years, none of my Game Boy games have died, and I still have a working Game Gear, while two of my Gamecube discs went to shit by 2006 (a mere four years after I got it). Now you tell me which technology is more reliable: Kirby's Pinball Land, working thirteen years after purchase, or Metroid Prime, where I had to buy another one after four years.

how can u say assasins creed has no replay value and the oldies do? explain that to me
anyways, the first game to come to mind was Centepide.
luck on your quest

Assassin's Creed is excessively repetitious, doing almost the same mission seven or eight times. I only kept playing for the story, and after I knew that it got boring. Meanwhile, something like Metroid can be replayed over and over, and even an old, pre-story, one-level-design game like Pac-Man has the fun of getting the high score or going longer on one quarter than ever before.

hey its the superjail guy. i totally agree i just took out my old nes after i watched the nerd for the first time. played super mario and castlevania and was amazed cause i forgot how good they were.

That's the Nerd's magic: sure, he takes you back to the past mainly to play the shitty games that suck ass, but while you're back in the past you might as well play the old games you knew and liked then, right?

i just wanted to ask you this. even though i already did when i responded to your bad movie review comment i just wanted to make sure. could you please comment on my bad movie review again and tell me if you liked it and if you thought it was funny (even if only a little) i wanted to kno if i should make more

Done. Always happy to help.

what about games for old computers

ehhh one of these days I really need to get a c64 or something

Ah, that's it! I knew I was forgetting something. Usually the focus is on consoles and arcades, but why should classic personal computers be pushed aside and forgotten?