What exactly does RP mean again? I only got Internet access back in September, after 6 years, so I don't exactly know what certain things mean...

Yes, I know of L7C. I, too, warned them to stay away from the Kitty Krew. My reviews have not been deleted, but they continue to put up intentionally bad flash, probably under the direction of BigFuzzyKitten. They say they're going for Underdog of the Week, but under the KK, they're going to get Turd of the Week. I only hope that they see that soon, and banish BFK and Reaperssythe, as well as individual spammers and morons such as bernie-buddy and Orangebeef, from their ranks. And the spammers can be stopped, if we just get the statwhores on our side. They auto-fifen every submission in the Portal, so if we could just find a way to get them with us, KK would never pass another submission so long as they live. Now, there are two ways of doing this. One is to raise the pass standard to 2, which would make half of all statwhores, at least, stop voting 5 and start voting 0 on everything. But some good submissions would then fail. I prefer the "whistle option" described in my petition, because it will not so easily cause the demise of non-spam movies which are UotW material, and it will also allow the deletion of accounts of chronic spammers like BFK. Account deletion will probably be the best way to stop the spammers. Maybe if Kes (the main account behind BigFuzzyKitten) sees his precious alt get deleted, he'll drop the spam, and start making good stuff, just as he made the Firefox theme that I'm using now, and also Don't Mess With M-Bot, which is kinda stupid, but not complete and total spam like most Kitty Krew Krap.

It seems you've learned your lessons about anti-spam movements from the AKK. Now, I respect many of these guys, in part because Tomajko brought well over half of the current signatures to my petition. And they're not all that bad at flash, especially when compared to the Kitty Krew; they just lack the experience needed to make anything beyond the basic sprite movie. But most of them are like us, 07 users with little flash experience. So yes, they're going to be still imperfect at the craft. And more skilled flash artists, such as most of the Clock Crew, are not going to attack spammers, because they're older users who spend more time making flash than playing NG politics, and have probably fought their wars before, whether it was Clock Crew vs. Ki1o and anti-Clocks, or Clock Crew vs. Lock Legion, or other wars that happened. And it's the same with the users at, like, level 32 and stuff who could blam the hell out of the garbage as it appears.

AKK will someday become much better at making Flash. They will grow in voting power. And just as Ki1o's then-immense voting power and will to blam all spam forced the Clock Crew to grow up and make good stuff, so will the AKK force the Krappy Kitty Krew to grow up or leave NG. But the Kitty Krew will be followed by other spammers, and by that time, Goldenmoon, Oldskoolkammy, Jackisback, and the rest will be respected flash artists, and won't have as much time to fight against spam. I expect that by then, Tomajko and LampShadez' Tall Turtle series will be one of the well-made series on NG, and the Shades Gang will be our era's Lock Legion. And so, a new group of 10ers (since I expect this war to begin in 2010) will take up arms against the spammers (who will themselves be 09ers), and we will have the mentality that 04-05ers have now, to improve our flash skills, rather than just playing politics on the BBS and the Portal, and the vicious cycle of newbs vs. n00bs will repeat itself, indefinitely, until Tom and Wade step in to do something about it. The whistle option will break this cycle, and force new crews to make pass-worthy flash within their first few months, rather than spamming the Portal.
And it's really not just about BigFuzzyKitten and the KK. It's about AfroUnderscoreStud, and about the L7C (which will hopefully grow up soon...), and the Owl Organization, all of which are probably, and the last two definitely, influenced by or connected to BigFuzzyKitten.
But I kinda like your idea. Goldenmoon's AKK forums keep getting discovered, blanked, spammed, and raped by the Kitty Krew. If we could persuade some older, more experienced users to join in the battle against spam, you'd be onto something. But since the older users who have great voting power, whether 05ers who were here when the Star Syndicate were all spam and the Dailytoons weren't funny, or 04ers who remember the founding of the Lock Legion, to 01 and 02 users who actually remember seeing StrawberryClock submissions in the Judgment Zone, and the subsequent hatred given to the Clocks who followed SBC by Ki1o, do not care about the affairs of 06 users like most of the high-ranking KK members, or those of 07ers like us, all we have is the AKK, and my petition. At least until later in this war, by which point I suspect that Clock Days, and to a lesser extent Lock Days, will have upgraded us all to Police Sergeant, and all of us will be Level 18.

Thank you, Gustavos. Together, we can ban spam from the Portal, just as it is banned from the BBS. But it is not yet time to warn the admins of this petition. Specifically, it will not be time until the petition has at least 2000 distinct, non-spam signatures. They can shake off a request or two from 1 or 2 users, or even from 100, easily. But when 2000 users band together against spam, then maybe the admins will listen, since 2000 is far harder to ignore than 2 or 200. Now, if only all 07ers were like you, we wouldn't be in this mess with the KK to begin with.

I once thought of making a post in the forums, but decided that I needed more time to think of what I needed to write for it. I continue to prepare for such an event. Of course, I knew from the start that the spammers would try to take out my petition, so my concern never touched upon the actions of BigFuzzyKitten's lackeys. I did not even have any fears at the time. I have certain doubts now, but they will remain entirely my own, because I know that the KK will exploit them if they know about them. But I will certainly add the concept of a great Golden Age for NG to my post, for when it comes out.

As far as me giving you hope, I think that I understand. I actually knew nothing about the spammers, their origins, their leaders, or their motives when I created the petition back in November. I still do not fully understand their motives. I almost lost hope for the cause when I saw that BFK's power reached beyond NG, to YouTube and even to YTMND. But I saw moments later an AKK movie by theicecubeclock, and that changed everything. For though it was poorly made, short, and showed only Goldenmoon running over a kitty while riding in a tank, this was still a sign that someone other than myself disliked spam on the NG Portal, and was willing to take a stand against it. Perhaps that is the feeling that you are talking about?

It is probably for the L7C, and other young artists, most of all that I wish for the dark power of the KK to subside. Originally, I will admit, this was about me, and not wanting to be interrupted by spam within the Portal. But I soon came to realize how bad the spammers really were, when I noticed the formation of L7C. The first "Random Collab" seemed a test, but the second came, then the third, the fourth, and so on, and though the skills of the L7C improved, their ideas did not. I believe this is due to the acts of the KK, as you apparently do as well. I "spoke" to their leader, yoshi77777, on the Forum, and he said that he is not being used, and that the "Random Collabs" really were tests, so maybe they'll start submitting something good soon, but so long as KK holds influence there, I seriously doubt that they'll ever be as good as they could be, especially if they keep going to Reaperssythe for parts for their Flashes.

As far as your idea of an epic series about the war against spammers, by the time a new artist like yourself becomes good enough to create such a movie, we will have probably moved on, and if what I know of NG history serves as any precedent, the Kitty Krew will probably have either grown up and started making good flashes, or disbanded like the Uzi Union did. And yet I still had a great idea for a story of that sort, starring all the legends of NG, both legendary users such as Tom, Wade, StrawberryClock, and of course, our villain BigFuzzyKitten, and legendary characters such as Pico, Alien Hominid, Hank Wimbleton, etc. I will not here or now spell out these details, for the idea has not fully taken shape in my mind yet.

It's not so much "Get rid of the Kitty Krew", it's more like "Force the Kitty Krew to stop spamming the Portal". And if you think that goal's unachievable, hell, multiple StrawberryClock movies are in your favorites, you probably know the story of Ki1o, and the Clocks stopped spamming and became a highly respected group in part because, if they didn't, Ki1o would have blammed all of their flashes. It's the same way with us, only unlike the early Clocks, the KK's spam isn't even funny, and they have enough members to CRMV (crew-related mass vote) their submission through. That's why this anti-spam stance of mine became a petition in the first place. I saw KK movies passing, and I thought of a way to fight back.

And yes, I've already figured out that you're not a true Clock, but just a fan of SBC's work.

Yes, I suppose you're right. BFK just holds the position of NG's great villain for now. A year or so from now, and he may have left NG (as KK co-founder Lasse did back in September), and the Kitty Krew may be dead, only to be replaced by a new spam gang. But know this (and you probably already do): there will always be a new spammer, until something is done.

As far as the Owl Order ever being the top spammers, I doubt it. The OO was started by BFK and The-DeadDuck, two KK members, as a definite front group, not taken over through the Portal Buddy system like the L7C seems to have been (though yoshi77777 denies any affiliation with KK). If BFK goes down, not only is KK dead, but so is OO. The more likely scenario is that multiple young users will band together and fill the void if the KK ever goes down or stops spamming. And you didn't seem like a "little kid" at all, you seemed more like someone with great ambitions in flash. I have other ambitions here, but perhaps if we work together, it can all be accomplished.

It was probably around 2.3 or so when it passed judgment at 200 votes (due to crew-related mass voting and statwhoring, no doubt), and it's impossible for a flash to be deleted after judgment unless it is found to have broken the rules, or if the author's account is deleted. The only thing we can do right now is keep voting to pass good submissions, and blam bad ones. If we vote on 5 submissions each day, our level will increase, and if we stay in the Judgment Zone, we could eventually have fairly high blam and save points (my goal by the end of 2008: Police Sergeant or higher). Enough to be much better at voting on submissions and having effect. Meanwhile, my Petition is in my sig on the Forums, so it can get some publicity there for now, and, even if people don't sign, at least raise some awareness of the problems of spam.

I'm really not saying that you guys are entirely still spammers. But if you don't call BFK's recent Ludacris series "spam" (although still better than both the AfroUnderscoreStud series off which it's based, and AfroUnderscoreStud's current Hitler-related series), then you probably don't have any concept of what spam is. Your fellow KK member ZombieArmy continues to make the extremely spammy Brain Dog series and credit other KK members as co-author. Out of the four most recent submissions shown on BigFuzzyKitten's page, all four are spam, meaning that some of the KK are still spamming with official KK consent, and continue to co-author BFK, with BFK's consent. I've seen the 2006 Christmas collab, and it's not the usual KK spam, and just today your fellow KK member Kyothine submitted something worthy of a 2 vote (meaning not spam). And your own stuff is not the usual KK garbage either. I may have thought A Kitty Krew Beatdown sucked more ass than almost any other animation on NG, but that's not because it was spam, because it had fairly high production values. I just don't like to see people kill StrawberryClock, since I'm a fan of most of the Clocks' modern stuff.

However, despite these signs that the flood of spam is starting to subside, some KK members seem interested in turning younger authors into spammers. This especially seems to apply to those of your members who are connected to and friends with members of the L7C. And you guys still make more spam than any NGer not named AfroUnderscoreStud. You mention, to an average NGer who goes into the Judgment Zone a lot, the name BigFuzzyKitten, and the first word that comes to mind is "spam". At least that applies to me, and to most of the guys I know who actually care about NG.

As far a "mature non faggot members", I've been to your site. Isn't there a Gay Bar forum, with a Goatse subforum? I remember that being there quite vividly. That's a bit of a homosexual ("faggot" is derogatory language) action, if you ask me (which, of course, you didn't). And Reaperssythe posted a video on YouTube showing the deletion of KK co-founder Lasse's account. That's just publicly humiliating another person, which is completely immature.

But I'm waiting for the Kitty Krew to prove me wrong in my opinions of them. If the Christmas Collab is anything like last year's, I'd like to see it and vote 4 on it (since that's what last year's was worthy of, a 4) while it's under judgment. And what's this "Technotranscension" Collab you speak of? Anyway, if they're good, I'll vote well on them. If they're bad, I'll vote 0. That's the way it always works with me.

It's one thing to delete an account of someone who has been hacking and spamming a group's forums. But I don't think world-scale public humiliation on YouTube was necessary. Simply account deletion and some humiliation on the KK's website would have been enough for Lasse, if what you say about her trying to hack the KK website is true.

I happen to like movies with at least some semblance of plot, and movies that are actually what they promise to be. This applies to most, if not all, Mario or Zelda-related submissions (and all of those in the Mario and Zelda collections), and very few spam submissions, especially those of the Kitty Krew. As far as your pal Reaperssythe recording deletions of KK accounts and submitting them to YouTube, I do not believe that it's a good idea to record such deletions and hold people up to world-scale humiliation for it. That sort of thing is morally wrong, and generates bad karma. Lasse just got my focus because she was a co-author of the Kitty Seckings collab. If what Clock-Ninja said was true, about her hacking the KK forums, her crime was against the Kitty Krew, not against the whole of the Internet. I don't see Wade recording the deletion of NG user accounts and submitting them. Her deletion and shame should have been kept to the Kitty Krew.

The Clock Crew is good. Hell, even most StrawberryClock flashes outdo the vast majority of KK movies in production values and ideas, and their titles always apply to their content. You guys are notorious for making garbage that makes B look like one of the Brackenwood series, and you often promise something in the titles of your movies that you deny to the viewer in the actual content. Any of you KK members insulting NG legends like the Clock Crew by making a movie showing one of your own killing their inspiration is just like a piece of dog shit insulting the Statue of Liberty. The only character in that movie who got a beatdown and deserved it was SevenStar, more because of his pedophilia than because of his spam. But maybe you're right about a 0 score on my comment being a little harsh and prejudiced.

And BFK's name appeared on the original news post on the OO's Newgrounds user page. So at least, if he didn't found it or join it, he knew what you and sQueef were doing and was named as an honorary cofounder just for giving his assent. Either that or you two just wanted it to seem that you had the assent of BFK. Either way, it's dead now (if you're telling the truth), so it really doesn't matter.

Yes, I take the Internet seriously. Newgrounds is the reason that I am regaining my intellect after a damaging WWE addiction, and so I do wish to see it survive. And I think that spam is damaging to NG. So it is only natural that I will have a low opinion of those who spam the Portal. And I will fight against spam in the Portal, until I die or my Internet connection dies. And as far as that, there's nothing that you, those statwhores who keep 5ing and protecting your garbage, Reaperssythe, or even BigFuzzyKitten himself can do about it.

Maybe the KK should leave Newgrounds, pack up all their garbage, and take it to YouTube. Their garbage will not inspire so much well-deserved hatred there as it does here, since YouTube is chock full of total random garbage anyway. And you're also right about the kind of retarded Internet acronyms that some of them use. They should either grow up, or leave Newgrounds and spend the rest of their miserable lives in exile on YouTube, MySpace, and 4chan.

As far as the OO, perhaps it is dead, and perhaps I made a mistake calling BFK a co-founder. But the fact remains that it was founded as a KK front group, by at least one KK member, and for a time it spammed the Portal. But since it's dead, let's just forget about it.

And yes, indeed, it is immature to constantly call other people "faggots" because you disagree with them. Ann Coulter got in major trouble this past year for calling former Democratic Vice Presidential hopeful John Edwards a "faggot". You'd think the KK would learn from seeing that incident on TV, but they apparently don't pay attention to the news.

Clock-Ninja fails at spelling Internet.

Actually, Gustavos, you've got it wrong. The average NGer (barring most of the individual spammers) is much smarter and more serious than the average YouTuber. Most of the quality movies on Newgrounds (such as the Brackenwood series) have action, plot, and other such qualities that many popular YouTube movies (as well as the majority of the garbage in that unmoderated shithole) do not have. Most of our fellow NGers, from such enemies of the spammers as us, to average users on the Forums, to statwhores and spam fanboys, to KK members such as Clock-Ninja and The-DeadDuck, even to the point of Kes himself (though he dumbs himself down a bit when he logs in as BigFuzzyKitten), have a relatively high intelligence, as judged by their comments on the BBS and on submissions (although there are exceptions, such as the reviews reported in Rage's thread in the Wi/Ht section). Such intelligence does not exist on YouTube. Once, I commented on the opening sequence from one of the terrible mockeries of the Zelda series made for the CD-I, with something saying "May the Goddesses of Courage, Wisdom, and Power forgive the fools who made this game!". Someone replied to me with something calling me a Wiccan (and flaming me for it), even though it was a Zelda reference, on a Zelda-related flash. That sort of response wouldn't be made here, except by an abusive flash author.

But you did say something right; namely, that Newgrounds can be manipulated far easier than YouTube can. The Portal system and the Flash format, although they protect NG from the sort of random garbage that is so important to YouTube (although some of it does show up, such as the only major Internet meme that NG can call its own, Numa Numa), can be so easily messed with by spammers, both by malicious individuals and by crew-based losers who think that it's funny to promise someone pornography and give them an epileptic seizure or a poorly-drawn, possibly MS Painted, cat vomiting all over the place. That sort of thing would be nearly harmless on YouTube, where there are neither well-publicized places to showcase recent video submissions, nor a way for users to delete submissions during a sort of probationary period with incentives for voting as the rest of the users vote. It is precisely these characteristics, which make Newgrounds unique, that also make it so vulnerable to spam.

If the KK were to move their operations to YouTube (which they will not, since their entire group is based around spamming Newgrounds and annoying its users), they would be made nearly impotent. Once a video is submitted, it is often lost on YouTube (due to YouTube lacking a real way to check which submissions are most recent, as far as I know of), but here, it goes into the Portal, which is the destination of many, if not most, users after logging in. They would not have as much exposure, and that, not intelligence or seriousness of YouTubers (which many of them lack), would be the downfall of the Kitty Krew. They would not be a burden there; BFK, Reaperssythe, and Clock-Ninja, and probably others, already have accounts and submit videos there. It would instead become a burden on them: to submit all the videos they have to YouTube, and try to promote them to get enough views that they can annoy as many people as they can here. But even if the KK would leave NG and go to YouTube (which they won't), and even if they would become a burden there (which they wouldn't), the burden they would be on the back of YouTube would be a much smaller one than the one they are on the back of NG.

Actually, no. You fail. Flash cannot itself be submitted to YouTube, but programs exist to convert SWF to WMV files, which can be submitted. How else would Adam Phillips have gotten Waterlollies, a Flash creation, on YouTube?

Reaperssythe fails at insulting Gustavos.

Yeah, right. Like the Kitty Krew actually submits games. I've only seen one game from the bowels of the KK, and that would be LordZeebmork's Kitty Patrol. Most of your garbage comes in the form of short, crappy movies, promising and denying hentai to the horny masses, or otherwise spamming the Portal (not that you don't make good ones like last year's KK Christmas Collab, but it's mostly trash). It is this refuse that should be moved away from NG, to whatever other Flash-based sites there are out there, or to YouTube, so that serious NG users such as myself and Oldskoolkammy and Gustavos don't have to put up with that shit. So, either submit good stuff, or a user will rise to power, and take up the once-noble mantle of legendary Ki1o, now tainted in the minds of most NGers (only because the bad memory remains among the now-beloved Clock Crew, from when they were themselves releasing low-quality submissions).

I will not die, so you better pray to whatever God or gods you believe in that my Internet connection dies, because until then, I will not stop in my quest to protect my beloved Newgrounds from garbage.

And as far as the "Fail" comments go, your fellow KK member Clock-Ninja whipped out the "Fail" first. If you're going to criticize the "Fail" comments, criticize Clock-Ninja first.

I may not exactly agree with what my friends said, telling you to go commit suicide, but calling them "cyberbullies"? You guys are all frauds for promising and denying hentai to the users of Newgrounds, you are all spammers for submitting three or four or more garbage flashes per week, and each and every one of you spammers should seriously consider leaving NG, and going into an exile on MySpace and 4chan until you can learn to stop spamming.

And my friends are not, under any circumstances, fags for loving quality and hating those who wish to destroy it. If anybody is homosexual on NG, it's your little "leader" Kes, who is obsessed with Meatspin, Goatse, and Spongebob Squarepants. Gustavos and Oldskoolkammy are loyal Newgrounders, as am I. You guys, on the other hand, must despise NG, despise its users, despise every quality flash on this site, despise Pico and Alien Hominid and Waterlollies and all of NG's other great videos and games. To call them faggots for caring about this site and wanting to keep it good and make it better, and saying that they just make it worse? You guys must be entirely hateful and malicious to those of us who love Newgrounds.

The fact that you came here to wish me a happy L7C day, despite the things that Gustavos said about you being an enemy, and me calling your crew a "KK front group" and stuff, means that you, yoshi77777, are not an enemy, and are a good person, despite your apparent association with Reaperssythe. A happy L7C day to you too, and I sincerely hope your Christmas collab comes out as good as you hoped it would be.

I made the mistake in the original post of saying that whole M-bot line, and I have, by this point, figured out that I was mistaken. As far as KK movies not getting blammed, it's true that they are usually protected, but only by crew-related mass voting (in the language of retards like yourself, that means that all of you KK members vote 5 on the next Brain Dog turd to come out of ZombieArmy's ass), and then retarded protect whores do the rest. Your crew have figured out how to circumvent a system originally made that only good flashes would become a permanent part of the site, and instead of finding some way to use that knowledge for good, you just spam the Portal with intentional garbage.

The recent deletion of ZombieArmy's account, as well as that of the vast majority of the Brain Dog series, was just Wade Fulp's hand being used as the tool of karma. Take this as a lesson, Zeebmork: if you do something morally wrong, even if it's online (spamming, hacking, etc.), karma will come back and get you for it. She always does.

I'm not in any "secret hideout forums". And the group that you guys keep doing that to just keeps starting back up. Goldenmoon will not die on your commands, so I suggest you stop trying to kill him.

I've recognized you guys as an up-and-coming crew since I first saw one of those "random collabs" in the Judgment Zone. But I must admit, until you started a series of you own (the recent series starring Mario and the NG level icons), I was afraid that you'd end up a KK front group, due to your association with Reaperssythe. But the series would be pretty good, if you'd use the magic wand to remove the excess space from around the sprites and add sound. And then, apparently, the KK hacked the Crew collective account you set up, probably because you displeased BigFuzzyKitten by making something that didn't suck. You should probably PM Wade Fulp about that; BabyChipmunkQ admitted on your news post, and BabyChipmunkB in a news post of his own, to being the hacker. That's against NG rules, and should result in at least a long-term ban, if not account deletion, for both of these BabyChipmunk accounts, if not all BabyChipmunk accounts, since they very well may all be the same person.

You don't want their spotlight. Many NGers hate them. You would probably prefer the Clock Crew's spotlight, where almost everybody on NG loves you, and that can best be achieved by making many good flashes. A year from now, I think (based on your current growth rate), you'll be able to make a nearly Clock-quality flash, at least in the technical aspects. Whether you can do it on the level of ideas, only time will tell.

Actually, I was thinking about the whole hacking thing earlier. It was a collective account, right? As in all of your group had the password? Someone from within may have given it to a member of the KK. Or maybe a Kitty infiltrated your group. Either way, it looks to me like you may have a spy in your midst. Be cautious; you have no idea what the KK will do to their enemies. Even I have no idea how deep some of their evil can run. If Reaperssythe, an admin on the KK forums, didn't agree with it, that means it was more likely an individual kitty than an act sanctioned by the whole KK community, so I wouldn't blame the entire Kitty Krew.

Whoever the spy is, he may also be behind the BabyChipmunk accounts. Since almost all the BabyChipmunk flashes are the same, and I'd seen it in the Portal before BabyChipmunk signed up, I know that BabyChipmunk is an alt of a pre-existing KK member. The rest of this mystery, is up to you to solve, if you wish to do so. But unless you solve it, this attack may be replayed many time over, just like the attacks on Goldenmoon and the AKK, so I suggest you figure it out and purge the spy from the L7C. Just think about it for a second: which L7C member was always pushing you to make another bad flash, rather than improving your skills? Who had the most connections with some of the less-trustworthy KK members? Who would have had the most to gain? You'll probably pick up some clues in the answers to these questions.

OK then, Clock-Ninja. It's Christmas. Even Link and Ganondorf probably wouldn't hate each other at Christmas, if they were real, or if Christmas were a part of the Zelda world. So yes. Merry Christmas, Clock-Ninja.

Not enough members for CRMV? Bullshit. Not enough individual people sitting at the computers, possibly, but most of you have alternate accounts, and know of proxies which will allow you to get your votes in despite having already voted. And don't talk about the CC doing that; their movies would almost always be passed anyway, since the Clocks are, for the most part, great artists. The CC's mass voting does next to nothing to the score, since most NGers probably already give high votes to the CC. The Kitty Krew, on the other hand, mass votes, and between mass voting and idiotic statwhores (many of whom probably come here from 4chan, to try to ruin NG), your garbage flashes get passed.

I've seen your "Adventures of Mareo Man". It's not the best, the funniest, or the most artistic movie on NG, or even any of those things among the Mario movies. But it's not spam, I'll give you that, though it was, in my opinion, only worth a 2. And I suppose I liked Kitty Patrol, even though I preferred playing badly on purpose, rather than doing it right, to simulate the way some (perhaps most) of the KK do badly at Flash on purpose. Oh, and your recent Hitler Collab was pretty good, as was BigFuzzyKitten's White Christmas Collab.

And though people may not notice, or even care, karma always rewards proper actions, and punishes improper and immoral actions. So when BabyChipmunk hacked the L7C account, he generated enough bad karma to last him his next three lifetimes, if indeed there is life after death.

It may be a few hours late, LordZeebmork, but I'd like to wish you, and the entire KK, and in fact everyone else, whether friend or foe, a Merry Christmas.

Oh, and I saw your flash (submitted under the username Kberkag, but we all know it's you anyway) mocking my petition. But I had the last laugh, seeing how I posted it at Rage's, and got some whistle points from the abusive reviews.

And Kberkag stole the text from my Petition, and made a spam flash with it.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/
view/417049
Though he mocks me, it only makes me stronger, makes my Petition stronger, gives me more publicity. And though BabyChipmunk mocks you, and gloats over the account he stole, he will soon know that to be his own downfall as well.

Oh, and thanks to the efforts of myself and others like me, that submission was blammed. Zeebmork, if you're reading this, this is proof that karma returns that which you give to the world. BabyChipmunk hacked the L7C's account, raped their forums, and gloated over it, and now...
BLAM!!!

I have indeed been to the KK forums, and yes, when I go there there's usually 5 or 6 on. It's probably mostly statwhores anyway, since non-statwhores don't usually like KK movies from what I've read in the Forums. But shadowchaostails3 (some KK-lover, and possibly a friend of Reaperssythe, from what I've heard) admitted in the Forums, in Wi/HT, on a thread called Kitty Krew, that you get together and vote 5 on movies if they get near 0. That's mass voting, and with the garbage that I often see coming from the KK, I wouldn't be surprised if you did that to flashes under judgment too. So that's why KK haters and spam haters think you mass-vote.

As for the Clocks being spammers right up to 2006, that's the real bullshit. KnottsberryClock was doing good submissions as far back as 2001, as was OrangeClock, if I remember correctly. Perhaps they did spam up until 2003 or so, but they spammed no more by 04, when they had to put up with Banana, who had betrayed them and started his own group dedicated to flaming the CC, taking the name of Lock Legion. But by then they were certainly done with the spam. And though bad submissions do pass on Clock Day, it's tradition, and the Clocks always make something good, as do other crews with actual flash ability.

AndrewGlisson11 is a good man. He only hopes to help NG by fighting against you, as do I. So please do not flame him. OK, he may have spammed some userpages (I think he spammed Kes, actually), but he only does so to express his extreme distaste for spammers.

An anime group, huh? Oh yeah, I've heard of those guys. If a white dude who wants to be black is a "wigger", those dudes are "Wapanese", for lack of a better word. Still, I don't wish them anything but the best in their efforts as a new crew.

Ooh. Don't look now, but they just made a flash. Not just any flash, though, but one where they kill you... Sorry.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/
view/418172 -the flash.

I'm sorry, but I have no idea why some anime groups hate everybody. But looking at these guys' forums, and at the responses to Chewy's question about why he's been deleted, maybe they're just KK haters. Who knows, maybe some of them were rejected by the KK. I don't know them or their story, so I can't help you.

Well, it's the creator of the Pixelated Thingie movies! Seriously, man, those movies are very entertaining. I always enjoy seeing the Pixelated Thingie, especially in last night's movie (or was it this morning's? Time gets so foggy after midnight...) where he comes to NG. The part where he sees the B and says an N would be better... I wonder if anyone else noticed the reference?

As for your comment, if they can't think of a better way to get attention than spamming, they don't belong on NG. I'm kinda just pointing that out.

I noticed. Kes has hacked Newgrounds. He discovered a flaw in the Portal Buddy system, and used it to make it look like bigbadron, SBC, and the Fulp brothers are now in alliance with the Kitty Krew, and others among them learned this from him. Among these are the two most malicious bastards in KK history, ZombieArmy and LordZeebmork. Within the last month or so, both of ZombieArmy's accounts and most of LordZeebmork's alts were deleted, so they made it look like Tom and Wade had gone from artists to spammers. And bigbadron as well (maybe he was the one who notified Wade of Zeebmork's troll alts?). I see no reason to be angry about SBC being co-authored, because I see no reason that he would have a problem with being co-authored on spam flashes, since he himself made bad flash on purpose. And Zeebmork, under alt Kberkag, has co-authored P-Bot, M-Bot, Josh (as in Josh Bedn), and chluaid on the current Turd of the Week, the title of which was stolen from chluaid's movie Waterlollies. Kes himself, under the account BigFuzzyKitten, co-authored Pimp, A-Bot, G-Bot, Sherbert (Tom Fulp's cat), and others.

You yourself know how evil KK members can become. But to the others out there, now you get at least a glimpse of how evil they can be. But I do not blame the entire KK for this act, for just as the whole KK was not to blame when BabyChipmunkB hacked the L7C account, only those few are guilty of this act. Only Zeebmork, ZombieArmy, and most of all Kes, from what I know. But their malice must be stopped.

ZombieArmy is a bottom-grade spammer. His Brain Dog "series", if you could call it that, got his account deleted. Zeebmork actually made a thread about it in the Forums, but it was more a complaint about his non-spam, 2-worthy Adventures of Mareo Man being deleted with ZombieArmy. But what does Zombie do? He comes right back to NG, and gets right back to making and submitting Brain Dog. And the moment Kes finds a hole in the Portal Buddy System, he jumps right in and co-authors Tom and Wade for Brain Dog shit. I'm surprised he wasn't deleted again and IP banned.

And you can say I just don't like Zeebmork. Anybody who makes different alts to troll the Forums, spam the Portal, and impersonate both mods and official NG automated systems is a bastard in my book. Or at least, he acts like one while under alt form. He only shows signs of intelligence on his main account. All other accounts, he uses just to be a jackass and thinks he can get away with it. And when he submitted the current Turd, and after judgment changed its name to Waterlollies!, and then co-authored the creator of the real Waterlollies, his disrespect for NG legends and important flash movies showed itself.

Thanks for the compliments, dec. And the only reason I don't have any flash is because I'm too broke to afford it, and I was unable to learn enough to make a quality submission during my 30-day trial. But yes, I suppose I do deposit almost every day, and vote on a lot of under judgment submissions... This almost worries me. I fear I might be half-statwhore or something.

But without money or knowledge of Flash, I don't suppose I will ever get the respect given to Rupee. He's one of my favorite authors (as are you, by the way), and plenty of others respect him as well. Even if he does fart in your face whenever you kiss his ass. He's probably the best artist in the CC.

But that's OK. As long as I'm blamming what needs to be blammed and protecting quality submissions, blowing the whistle on shitty reviews and writing good ones of my own, and doing what I feel is right both on the Forums and in the Portal, I'm okay.

It will certainly help. As for me, I just reached Police Officer. One alone does little, but two together can do twice as much.

Thank you! I probably won't go back to the Level-Up Lounge until I have another accomplishment to show off, like Level 20, or Private. Still, it was not a bad place to go just once, to congratulate some people and toot my own horn... So I may show up there next B/P rank or something. And about your news post, you're right, Light aura does suit you best.

No, no, I don't want to lose it! Only flag if they're unsuitable or stolen. Although, sometimes they do submit Meatspin clips and such, so I flag them, but otherwise I watch, and then vote, not watch and then blow the Whistle.

Any increase in power by an ally helps in a war. Congratulations on your accomplishment.

This post is kind of old. I've seen some more KK stuff which doesn't suck (like Unblamable), even some stuff made with skill from BigFuzzyKitten, like a Weebl hentai parody I saw, kind of a parody of Zone's work. And some of you don't seem like the idiots my first impressions made you out to be. But I still don't like spam, know what I mean? If I see spam, well, there's a reason that the admins (specifically Ross who first programmed the Portal) put in that 0 button. But I do watch, and vote fairly afterwards, not just pass judgment on authors. You want someone who votes based on who the author is, well, AndrewGlisson11 is like that, as was ki1o in his day. But I don't do that. I don't hate all of you, you know.

Thank you sir! That means a lot, coming from an EGB member and Supreme Commander such as yourself!

And how, exactly, am I the one helping to send it down the drain? If anyone here is doing things that reflect badly on the site and its administration, it's you, Mr. "I Think It's OK To Steal Accounts And Use Them To Pass Spam That I Try To Deceive The Users Of Newgrounds With By Calling It Hentai". And if you don't respect NG, then log out and never return.

Apparently you never learned that stealing is wrong. Then again, there's a lot of things you apparently never learned were wrong, like lying and cheating.

Now this is the kind of thing I love responding to! And if you're bored, heck, you made that "Advenntuers of Mareo Man" spoofing all the Mario submissions and how you dislike them, well, why not make one about some other category of Flash you don't like?

On the first point, yes you probably did get your silver whistle from flagging all the abuse your spam alts (some of which are now deleted, but I suspect you have more left) get. But in those cases, you were the thief and not the victim. My Petition is my writing, and I put my heart into it as I put it into all things. Maybe you put your heart into "Advenntuers of Mareo Man", I wouldn't know, but I wonder how you would feel if that Flash, which is evidently the best one you think you have submitted to NG (with some reason), was stolen and spammed by another. Plus, I just needed a way to say that I got something out of your theft of my creation.

And on your life being somehow "better" after you began trolling, believe me, karma always catches up to you. Or don't believe me if you don't want to, it doesn't hurt me in any way. Just know that I've seen it happen many times that one who did wrong to another was wronged in the same way himself. Case in point, my junior high principal. He yelled in my ear after I made a small joke about the Islamic faith and its more extreme followers, called my dad in for a meeting, and was a complete asshole at the meeting. Flash forward four years, someone makes a MySpace mocking him, and he suspended this girl from school. Now the ACLU is on his ass for his actions, and karma is served against him, for me, for this girl, and for anyone else he unjustly punished.

And you are already a legend of sorts in your own time, don't you worry about that. The only question is, how will you make sure your tale remains for posterity? Just remember that we still learn about George Washington 200 years later, but by 200 years post-Holocaust Adolf Hitler will be but a historical rumor.

I'll admit I never knew you as Ddobio, and bigbanrod sounds like both a humorous and accurate description of certain acts of BBR. You used MBot to spread dismay however, by making people think that their reviews had been deleted, and I do not like to see innocent people suffer undeservedly because they gave you abuse in their reviews, even if the suffering is limited to a mild embarrassment and worry about possible bans.

And what, exactly, is your problem with Brackenwood? It has some of the best, if not the absolute best animation on Newgrounds. And for that matter, why don't you like SMBZ, Bowser's Kingdom, or for that matter almost any other sprite flash? I mean, not liking Tankmen I can understand, if you don't like cock jokes (though I personally enjoy them every now and then). But what's so wrong with Brackenwood?

About four months ago, I would have said "He should become an hero", but that is no longer my opinion.

Now, now Inferno, Gustavos and I have changed a bit in the month or two since those comments were written, and I haven't seen Kammy since Christmas... But Gustavos and I have gone from anti-KK fanatics to a duo of people who just want to protect the Portal. And you can go thank Kottbullar for that.

And you're talking about... what? If the AS was automatically fucked by converting a Flash movie into .wmv format, Waterlollies would not be on YouTube. Although there is some frame-dropping and some reduction of quality, it can still be done.

"Uhh... you guys do realize they filmed Waterlolies with a video camera right?"
Actually, no. Adam Phillips still had the .swf file on his computer, and a program to convert between .swf and .wmv files, and he used the program and submitted it there. And yes, I know about people trying to take credit for work that isn't theirs. I've seen three stolen Flash submissions in the Portal in the last two days...

Thank you! And you called me "cool" or something at the Barracks, for helping with the whistle project even though I am currently ineligible to join; thank you for that as well.
*salutes*

The world is changed. I feel it in the water. I feel it in the earth. I smell it in the air. Much that once was, is now lost, for none now live who remember it.