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SoulMaster71
Many folk like to know beforehand what is to be set on the table; but those who have laboured to prepare the feast like to keep their secret; for wonder makes the words of praise louder.

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Hell yes brother, games aren't as satisfying these days. It really is amazing how a 64 game like Ocarina of Time can consistently be as fun for me over the course of 12+ years. I've probably beaten it 4 times and master quest once. It has so much that new gen games don't right now. Depth of story, character, levels, and sub-plot(back story). All of these essential depths were executed flawlessly in this game.

Don't get me wrong...There are many great games now that are just so visually stimulating it leaves me agape, but that's not what I care about! Like Final Fantasy XIII(13), It looks so beautiful, but yet, there is so much lacking in the story and characters, I can't even finish the game yet because it's so....boring I guess...I would even go as far as saying that FFIV and VI (4 & 6) each had more depth than XIII.

Good games are amazing stories that pull you into their world and you KNOW that you are a part of that world. The games today don't have that sensation. I feel foreign in many newer games, I feel less involved and more like an audience, taking a back seat to the slow, linear progression of these amazingly visually stimulating games. It's strange and not right.

Those of us strong in the ways of gaming have felt this decline for a while, but I didn't imagine it would happen so fast. It's sad too because there aren't like any original game ideas. The last one I played was Okami for PS2 and that was great. Other than that it's sequels and remakes.

You're missing the point. Did you jump right into Ocarina of Time, your first time picking up a controller, and know what to do? Probably not. I know I played for years before getting into anything with more than a lame excuse for a story. Point is, you need to get into gameplay before you get into story. The new gamers, the casuals, they're beginning to get into gameplay. They're a long way from story, if they're even going to get there (the kids will, the old people and moms not so much). The slide into epics like Ocarina of Time was part of what divided "hardcores" and "casuals" in the first place.

I'm not going to deny the greatness of FFIV or especially FFVI. I'm currently in the middle of FFIV Advance, grinding for my trip to the Moon. And yeah, it's pretty good. You know what else it is? Pretty high up the gaming ladder. Come on, you think the Wii Sports crowd would be able to stick with a game that long? That's why I suggested moving the goalposts on required length, at least outside the RPG and action-adventure genres. Final Fantasy XIII, I haven't played. A lot of gamers have come out about not liking it, for one reason or another, but the complaint from the casual end would be that it's too long. Also, last price I saw of it was more expensive than some casuals would like to pay for a game, even used. Like I said, development costs are bit high due to graphics and length.

Good games don't have to be amazing stories. Some games, Zelda and Final Fantasy come to mind, are best when heavy on the story. But can you imagine a plot-heavy Mario? Or Sonic? Even Metroid has plenty of fandom disagreement about its rise in plot. Really, different games are played different ways, and while we may prefer one style or another, that doesn't mean it's superior. To casuals, both the "visual stimuli overload" games and the "enormous 50-hour epic" games are near-unplayable because they don't have the time or dedication to get into them.

But yeah, we're low on new IPs outside the casual stuff. At least I never hear about them. I never see them advertised, I rarely hear anyone talking about games outside the long-running series, and as such I'm not exposed to anything new in my gaming experience. It's probably because of development costs being passed on to the consumer, which means nobody buys something that isn't a sure winner because that would be $60 down the hole.

In the future I may like to use the AIvin-Earthworm account for the means of a humorous animated parody.

Ah, that one. I had some plans for it once, but they fell through. We can discuss it through PM, if you'd like.

Well said, bro. Well said.

Thank ya!

Indeed, well said. I used to be deep into gaming, but not anymore. Not with school and that stuff..

Same happened to me with anime. I was totally into it in like 2008, but not so much now. I'm trying to get back into it, but... It's been like forever, I haven't even seen any in about a year. Damn TV Tropes, dragging me back into watching wrestling.

Wow, I actually agree with something. (which is rare) While I do like and get into newer games such as Fallout: New Vegas, and other recent games, I still do play my Nintendo 64. My most played game I would have to say is Ocarina of Time followed closely by Majora's Mask. They were great games even on an older system. Heck, I like them better than the newest game in one of my favorite series. This article thing is right-on. Keep up with the good ones ^^

There's definitely room for every genre: JRPG, WRPG, Action/Adventure, casual party game, shooters both first-person and third-person, and even sports. But focusing on one genre at the expense of all others leads to situations like the current one, where those who for whatever reason generally dislike the genre are pushed out and are only brought back in at the expense of those who had stuck with the hobby. And yeah, I'll admit that Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time are my two favorite games (unless I like Twilight Princess more during a given week). But the often platformer-heavy and relatively casual-friendly world that existed around OoT and Final Fantasy VII changed to more resemble those games, then to be like Grand Theft Auto, then it became Halo or Call of Duty. You and I aren't among them, probably, but there are people who haven't the time to play through a game of Zelda length, who are outright offended by the subject matter in GTA or COD. Games for them were kinda shoved out of the limelight for a few years, leading to the major shock when the Wii brought them back in droves.

I didn't read it but you are probably right.

I think I was right about it... But now I can't be entirely sure, and I probably never will be unless someone, most likely Nintendo, really bridges that casual/hardcore gap. I think if anyone is interested in doing so it's Nintendo, but whether or not they will succeed with this WiiU thing has yet to be seen.

Hey how you doing buddy?

Me? I've apparently spent the last year, four months, and 20 days dead. But I'm #1, so why try harder?